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Dissociation isn’t a failure—it’s a defense. In this second episode of our three-part series on depression, Amanda dives deep into the experience of dissociation, how it relates to shutdown, and why understanding your personal depression map can help you navigate and heal.
Dissociation is one of the most misunderstood symptoms of depression. It’s not just spacing out or scrolling your phone—it’s a nervous system state, rooted in overwhelm and survival. Formally, dissociation is a mental disconnection from thoughts, feelings, or surroundings. But functionally? It’s mental flight when physical flight isn’t an option.
Your nervous system makes this call, not your conscious mind. When life feels unmanageable, your body opts to stay present physically but disconnect emotionally.
These are protective mechanisms, not signs of delusion. If you still know reality is real (even if it doesn’t feel like it), you’re grounded—just disconnected.
Dissociation and depression both occur in the red zone of the nervous system ladder, also known as the dorsal vagal state. This state triggers two key physiological goals:
This is why your system feels flat, foggy, or numb. Think of the gazelle being chased by a lion: when fight or flight fail, it collapses into freeze. It doesn’t choose to play dead. Its nervous system decides.
You’re no different. When your life feels like too much, your body chooses shutdown. It’s not weakness. It’s wiring.
To shift out of shutdown, you first need to recognize it. That’s where mapping comes in.
Amanda walks listeners through how to map their red zone experience using four categories:
Creating this personal map helps you:
Want to get started? Download Amanda’s free Mapping Your Red Zone Worksheet.
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Disclaimer: This article is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or qualified mental health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
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